5D mkII chat with Rob Galbraight

No real news or rumors regarding the new 5D. But that doesn't mean one can't find interesting articles/posts searching for some new 5D mkII info. I found this snapshot of a msn chat over at Fake Chuck Westfall. Pretty amusing stuff, it should make the wait for 5D mkII announcement a bit easier (click on the image to ENLARGE).

17th September?

I already got a comment yesterday, suggesting a press conference on 17th, but now the news about 17th september 5D mkII announcement is all over the photo forums and sites.

There are also some rumours about the price; 2600 EUR. For a camera with 21 or even 24 mpix with 1080p video capture, that would really be a bargain. It would be even cheaper than Sony A900, which has no video mode and besides that there are numerous heated Hi-ISO noise debates on various forums. I guess we should all thank Sony for introducing a FF camera with top of the class resolution priced at only $3000. I doubt Canon would otherwise put a 2400 EUR price tag on 5D's successor (to be honest I doubt it's going to be below 3k).

5D mkII with 24 mpix

Another set of specs can be found on the internet. French site EOS numerique posted these:

English translation:
* 24 Megapixel 24X36 CMOS sensor
* New battery, new grip
* DIGIC IV processor
* Magnesium alloy body
* Live view
* Video Mode
* Integrated Cleaning System
* Full compatibility with Canon EF and EX-series Speedlites
* Price : 2600€
* Official announcement : 17/09/2008

* More specs... soon

Canon's ad showing a bit more

Canon has altered their ad, showing slightly more. This certanly goes along with changing moon phases. I believe everything should be revealed on 15th September, at least according to the Moon phase calculator ;).

I also just received an email suggesting 5D mkII will offer 1080p video capture. Along with 21 mpix, that would really be destined evolution.

7D pictures

I've found two versions of what's supposed to be the successor of the good (very) ol' 5D over on Fred Miranda forums:

5D mkII "revealed"

I just got this info in my mailbox. Brad (link to his flicker post) was kind enough to send me a gamma adjusted mystery camera, supposedly the new 5D aka 5D mkII. Just like anyone expected it, but now that we can see that camera design is very similar to the "good ol'" 5D, expect of the different button layout, we're just one step closer to be sure of it. You can read all the relevant data on the pic (click to enlarge):

5D mkII - destined evolution?

And here's another teaser from Canon USA. It says only destined evolution, but it really doesn't take a brain surgeon to realise they're getting at 5D mkII. So if you add this ad to the previous, you can see Canon is really building up to the launch of a new camera.

5D mkII ad on Canon.de

I got an email pointing to canon.de. There's a banner announcing a new model. My german is poor, all I can understand is that a new model is coming, it's going to continue EOS line and it's going to be the future of photography (or something similar:D). I'd really appreciate a translation from one of my german speaking visitors.

So it look's like something big is going to be annonced any day now and it looks like it's going to be big. So the rumoured 5D mkII specs from the previous post (21 mpix, HD video, weather sealing...) could just be exactly what we're going to get in the new 5D. Does anyone want to bet on the date of the announcement? I'd guess one of the next couple Tuesdays or Thursdays;).

5D mkII latest specs leak

I've found these specifications on lots of sites and blogs around the net. People have written thousands of posts about it in the last couple of days. At first I had my doubts about 21 mpix, but from the huge resoulution bump that we've seen with 50D, it doesn't sound all that unrealistic. Although I still think this is going to have a devastating effect on 1Ds mkIII sales. Packed in a smaller body, with the same resolution, newer processor, HD mode - when you think about all theses new goodies, 5D mkII is even better than 1Ds in so many ways. Sure it's not as robust and its AF performace won't be as good. But who really needs top of the class AF speed and 45 AF points - most users use it for people shots anyway (portraits, fashion, weddings) and nature shots. There's no mention of the price, but it should be below $3k (matched to D700).


* 21.1 MP 1.0x
* DIGIC IV
* ISO 100-6400 L:50 & H:12800
* 5 FPS
* 3.2" High Resolution Screen (LCD)
* 19 point AF
* HDMI Out
* Liveview
* HD Movie Mode
* Viewfinder: 100% Coverage
* Full weather sealing
* EF Lenses only

50D leak

Here's a quote from Canon Japan's site, revealing specs:

Equipped with newly developed Canon DIGIC 4 digital video processor, to further improve the performance of the camera, with stronger data-processing capacity, bringing unprecedented performance of the image!

Canon developed and produced independently by the CMOS image sensor, has about 15.1 million effective pixel high-definition, the best show the beauty of the world!

Anti-Shake feature built-in camera, due to lower Shoudou the fuzzy images, taken more fun!

EOS integrated system with dust, the dust will reduce the impact on the image to the human eye can be difficult to understand the extent.

There's more on the new 920.ooo pix display etc on this LINK. I find it hard to believe Canon incorporated a built in image stabilisation. That would just cut too much into their IS lenses sales.

"5D mkII" announced on monday?

Most of us expected the announcement around 22nd August. That's the date Canon usually announced new cameras/lenses. Well they did disappoint us this year. So everybody really expects the annoncement on monday or tuesday. I mean they have to do something, because Nikon is really making their customers "switch boats" with D700, which really outperformes the "ancient" 5D in basically all aspects.

Anyway, here are the rumoured specs:

# new body design with integrated grip"
# "ISO 100-12500"
# "new processor"
# "6-8 fps"
# "3.2 inch lcd (not oled)"
# "I don't know how many MP, my friend believes it is more than 15 MP but there is no certain number he'd tell. Personally I was hoping high-around 18 MP cam, may be it will be."
# "Different name: not 3D, not 7D or 5D Mark II... something different; looks like it might have different names for Europe, USA and Asia (like kiss, xsi, d450 etc)"

7D announcement on August 26th

Rumours are floating around the internet that the date of announcement is going to be August 26th. I also found the specs on this site. And here are the specs:
-12MP

-5fps, Up to 21 RAW files
-Dust removing system
-15-point TTL CMOS sensor
-Center point additionally sensitive with lenses of F2.8 or faster
-96% frame coverage
-Magnification: 0.71x

-3.0" 640x480 TFT LCD (920,000 pixels)
-ISO 50-3200 extended to 12800 and 25600
-DIGIC III, 14-bit
-Canon EF lens mount (not EF-S)
-Live View Mode

-The body is very similar to the 5D, similar handgrip
-Surprisingly cheap, US$ 1,899

While some dealers already stated Canon will discontinue 5D production, here's a 7D spy shot:


Price in a French store http://www.muller-photo-service.fr/boutique/canon-boitier-p-2431-1_3.html

5D mkII announced tomorrow?

We're getting close to THE day. Rumour has it, that 5D mkII will be announced tomorrow. Most of you have already seen the rumoured specs, but I'll paste them here for those who haven't seen them yet:
- 15.3 MP full frame CMOS sensor (vastly improved light-gathering capacity per pixel: improved micro lenses; miniaturized micro circuitry; enhanced signal/noise ratio)

- Weather sealing same as 1Ds Mark III


- Dual Digic III with all-new "CXR" NR system reported to best 3rd party NR software. Available as a C.F with 4 levels of customizable parameters.

14 bit A/D conversion

- ISO 12800 (C.F. up to 25600)

- Reported 1 2/3 stop sensitivity improvement

- All-new 29-point TTL CMOS sensor
with 12 cross-type for F/2.8 or faster lens
(35% faster than 40D)

- Micro lens fine adjustment for up to 14 lenses

- 300,000 exposure shutter durability

- 6.0 / 3.0 fps

- 3.0" LCD
922,000 pixels

- EOS Integrated Cleaning System

- Live View (improved from 450D; latest generation)

- 6/3 fps continuous shooting for up to 68 frames

- MSRP $3499, available June 2

I've came across another interesting screenshot, Canon Germany placed 5DmkII on their site for a few hours.

5D mkII announcement imminent

I just got info from a Canon insider, that a 5DmkII announcement is due in a few days. Specs will remain the same as mentioned in one of the previous posts and there will be a new kit available as well. It'll come along with the long awaited 24-70 2.8 IS, priced at 4k EUR/4,290 $.

Stay tuned for the official announcement.

50D on the 5th April 2009

I came across this rumour on slo-foto.net forums:

According to Canon Japan Internas the EOS 50D comes in spring, 2009, exactly on the 05th April, 2009, worldwide presented for the PMA 09 in Wellington, New Zealand. Canon Japan makes this deliberate, because a narrow connection of Japan by New Zealand exists. 50D will have 12 chips MPix of 450D, she offers ISO values to 3200 really as well as by (known) trick to ISO 6400, 3-inch monitor and is sealed even stronger than 40D. It is placed between 5D MKII and 450D (which is removed shortly after from 500D). There will not be 3000D, by the way, because Canon it for holds not possibly to offer a reasonable new-developed DSLR in the prize segment less than 450D (which will cost till then for about 400 € as a set). However, the 50D will have otherwise an as big resemblance to 40D like it had 30D with 20D. The next real generation jump (signal processor, sensor etc.) comes with 60D, presumably in fall 2010. The two-digit remain, in any case, an APS C cameras. The thought is interesting that Canon develops a "3D", the body of 1D has reminded, indeed, rather of the features (MP, speed) of 5D MkII. This 3D closes that (also in price) gap between 5D MkII (approx. $ 3500,-) and 1d MkIII (approx. $ 4500,-). Then the line-up looks like: 450D (500D), 50D, 5DMkII, 3D, 1DMkIII, 1DsMkIII. Suitably to the 50D (in the set) there comes a successor of the USM IS 17-85, the USM IS 16-105. In addition, Canon works on a megazoom lens (as it were to a successor of the 28-300 L), however, nothing has still trickled through precise. And an USM 1.4/35 should complement the L 1.4/35 USM as a "Mainstream-Prime".

5D mkII announced in April - part 3

It seems that the story about 5D mkII is not over yet, here's a minor update from the guy who claims to have a credible source. This was posted a few hours ago on dpreview forum:

I made an error on the spec regarding the cross-type sensors. My source tells me there are 13 cross type sensors, not 12.

I even missed this in a response to someone in post II who said this didn't make sense . I meant to say 13, not 12.

I had a very limited time to respond to everyone, so I did a little copying and pasting (of this error) and compounded the misinformation.
There are 13 cross-type sensors in the AF of the new camera.

My apologies for any confusion I may have caused.

5D mkII announced in April - part 2

I found a sequel on dpreview forums to the 5d mkII rumour written in previous post. Additional information and clarifications are quoted below:

The CMOS in the new camera will be an entirely new generation, not based on the current flagship or the current camera it is replacing. The reason Canon can do this without cutting into the 1D series is because the new flagship will best the 5D in 3 key areas: frame rate, buffer, and AF. Canon recognizes these are extremely important to sports photographers. No one shooting pro sports goes backwards to save a few thousand dollars on a body. Canon knows this and understands it isn't competing against itself - even if amateurs on forums such as this (who wont buy the pro-series cam) do.

The CXR NR system will detail retention at 12800 similar to 3200 on current model, though a 1 2/3 stop improvement is the conservative, stated estimate. Canon hopes to create a "wow" factor with a conservative estimate that surpasses itself in studio/ pro review tests, because they know at this level, you'll be looking there. The philosophy here is that it will create such a "buzz," many who would not consider this camera will consider it. Calling a 2-stop advantage a 2-stop advantage would simply be meeting expectations. FPS will also slightly exceed 6 (and 3), as stated. Canon received negative feedback for the 6.5 FPS quoted in the 40D and learned from their mistake here. (Expect Nikon to underpromise at D3 and above cameras in the future. This is common when technology advancements under perform "consumer pull")

The weather sealing will, in fact, be the same as the current flagship. This is in direct response to Nikon and Pentax. Expect full weather sealing to be a feature in all but low-end (Rebel) bodies in the next cycle. You can thank Pentax for this.

Battery life will only be improved by just under 10% due to the extra processing required.

The market segment is not in direct competition with the D300. Just as the 5D created a new class of camera 3 years ago, the new 5D will create a similar new niche above the D300, but below the current Canon flagship. It will remain the affordable, full-frame niche that Nikon chose not to produce. The new Canon flagship, this Fall, will have a "1.5:1 price/performance advantage to the Nikon flagship." (Read carefully: this statement refers to the coming Canon flagship, not the 5D II being discussed here).

5D mkII announced in April

I've just came across this incredible rumour,that was discussed on slo-foto forum:

The new 5D II will not be released at Photokina, but instead will be a surprise announcement on April 22, according to a source I am unwilling to disclose.

The specs of the new camera are as follows (final name unavailable):


- 15.3 MP full frame CMOS sensor (vastly improved light-gathering capacity per pixel: improved micro lenses; miniaturized micro circuitry; enhanced signal/noise ratio)

- Weather sealing same as 1Ds Mark III


- Dual Digic III with all-new "CXR" NR system reported to best 3rd party NR software. Available as a C.F with 4 levels of customizable parameters.

14 bit A/D conversion

- ISO 12800 (C.F. up to 25600)

- Reported 1 2/3 stop sensitivity improvement

- All-new 29-point TTL CMOS sensor
with 12 cross-type for F/2.8 or faster lens
(35% faster than 40D)

- Micro lens fine adjustment for up to 14 lenses

- 300,000 exposure shutter durability

- 6.0 / 3.0 fps

- 3.0" LCD
922,000 pixels

- EOS Integrated Cleaning System

- Live View (improved from 450D; latest generation)

- 6/3 fps continuous shooting for up to 68 frames

- MSRP $3499, available June 2

What 7D should be like

I've read a lot of rumours about splitting the 5D line in two new models; 3D and 7D. If that's really Canon's plan and they're indeed trying to make an entry level FF (7D) and a semi pro FF camera (3D), then I think the specifications should be something like this:

- 10 mpix. By using the new sensor technology that we've seen in 1D mkIII, combined with DIGIC III, I believe that XL photosites would deliver super clean high ISO images, that would show an incredible level of detail as well. By High ISO I mean 6400 and the results should be noticably better than D3's. ISO could be extended all the way to 25600. It would have 14 bit A/D converter, which has became a standard at all new Canon DSLRs anyway.
- improved 40D's AF
- dust reduction
- 4 fps
- no weather sealing (3D would have it), slightly improved ergonomics compared to 5D
- high resolution 3" Live view LCD

To be honest I don't believe Canon would make such a camera. Making a 10 mpix FF sensor is unheard of nowadays, although we all know it would deliver super clean&crisp high ISO photos. Besides that it could be priced below $2k, since it would have only 10 mpix. Contary to company's thinking, such a camera would make a step forward, not backward. But what is more likely to happen is, that 7D would get 5D's sensor and 3D would get a brand new 16 mpix sensor, which should also be a bit better at high ISO settings then 1D mkIII. That wouldn't be that bad, but also wouldn't be better than D3. It should also have weather sealing, improved AF (perhaps taken from the old 1 series) and 5-6 fps.

6D will have to wait untill late summer

I heard a rumour that 6D is going to be announced just before Photokina, probably sometime between late August and 20th September. One of the reasons on why it wasn't announced now, right before PMA, was that Canon already announced 2 cameras last Fall and 450D just a few days ago. Besides that, Canon needs an announcement for Photokina and 6D is the only model that could be announced so soon. In my opinion, there could also be a 1D mkIIIn or even a mkIV. 6D is supposed to be a real upgrade, so 5D mkII won't be an option. It's reasonable though, after 3 long years minor updates should be out of the question.

Here are the rumoured specifications:

- 16 mpix, ISO 100-6400 (extended 12800)
- Digic III, 14 bit A/D, highlight priority with respectable DR boost (1+ EV)
- 3" LCD with higher resolution and live view
- dust reduction
- some changes to the body design, partial weather sealing
- 4 fps
- improved AF system (probably just improved 40D's AF)

I hope the new sensor will be even better at high ISO than Nikon's D3 and that its dynamic range would at least come close, if not on par with Fuji's S5.

5D mkII delayed

It's been a dry season regarding fresh rumours. And we are only 12 days away from PMA. Unbelivable! I'm glad I can finally write a new post. I didn't post for 2 months, since I don't like to post old stuff or just some slightly altered old speculations.

This one is about 5D mkII. I've came across some rumours that it's being delayed. Probably until Photokina 2008. But at least I hope Canon will make the 5D's successor a whole new camera, not just add a few unsignificant improvements, such as larger screen, buffer etc. If we have to wait another 8 months, they SHOULD do better than that. After all we're all tired of this endless small step evolutions. And Nikon has really made a breakthrough with D3 and D300 and they could decide to make a 5D competitor as well. So Canon has to act.